Re: FVWM: FvwmButtons w/o fonts?

From: Charles Hines <>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:41:14 -0500

>>>>> "jarl" == jarl <jarl_at_cptsu5.univ-mrs.fr> writes:

jarl> However there are a few features I'd like to see in some
jarl> modules. (Real small ones, no need to get preachy about the
jarl> Featherweight Virtual Window Manager)

I do tend to do that every now and then, but module enhancements I
don't normally have problems with (at least not about size).

jarl> FvwmButtons:
jarl> * Would it be tricky to enhance FvwmButtons to accept the
jarl> fontname "None" and then go without fonts? Like the Pager
jarl> module? Currently I _almost_ get there by using "-misc-nil-*",
jarl> gives just a 2 pixel overhead, but it's kinda cheating.

I don't think it would be too bad. Go ahead and do it. :)
I'll add it to my TO-DO list.

jarl> * I can't believe noone has noticed that FvwmButtons is squeezed
jarl> into a window that's one pixel too small both ways! I'm using it
jarl> without any frame, and it's painfully obvious that the right and
jarl> bottom edge borders are 1 pixel wide, while all the other
jarl> borders are 2 pixels. Is this a bug or a feature?

I never noticed it, but then again I don't use FvwmButtons. So, I
just tried it. I removed the frame entirely and I see no extra space
around it, so this may be a bug on your system only. This might
explain why no one else saw it.

jarl> * While playing around with the configuration, I sometimes want
jarl> to "split a button in two", however, after modifying all the
jarl> other buttons to have sizes like (1x2), and restarting, all
jarl> these other buttons have grown by 4 pixels (for the frame), 2
jarl> pixels for padding, and 2 times the height of the font
jarl> used. Aaaagh. It looks bad.

This may be related to your above problem.

jarl> Oh well, just throw in into the "more control of FvwmButtons
jarl> geometry. I almost can't stop myself hacking at the code
jarl> myself. Just wanted to see if anyone else is doing
jarl> something. :-)

If you feel the urge, go ahead and hack at the code. You might want
to look at the TO-DO list and see if you'd like any of those
additional features or bugs fixed and take a stab at them.

jarl> FvwmIconBox: (Is this obsoleted by FvwmIconMan or what?)

Nope.

jarl> * Same as for FvwmButtons, I'd like to be able to turn off
jarl> IconTitles by setting the font to "none".

Same answer as above.

jarl> * Make it possible to set the width of all those bars all over
jarl> the place. I'd just like to get them away, set them to 0 or
jarl> something, and swallow it all in the Buttons.

What bars are you referring to? Since I don't usually use it, I may
be showing my ignorance here.

jarl> * If we want it in the Buttons it should be able to take all
jarl> sizes, why not just let it pad off the icon-area inside?

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for here. But I can't
really see anyone wanting FvwmButtons to swallow FvwmIconBox. It's a
little big for that, don't you think?

jarl> * I notice non-transparent icons get a 3D-frame, but not
jarl> transparent ones.. Should be possible to this with something
jarl> akin to ..IconFrame True|False|Guess

If you compiled with the SHAPE option, this happens.

Chuck
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Received on Tue Feb 13 1996 - 16:54:40 GMT

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