On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 01:44:57PM -0700, esteffl_at_pbi.net wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-fvwm_at_hpc.uh.edu [mailto:owner-fvwm_at_hpc.uh.edu]On Behalf Of
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 04:56:31PM -0700, esteffl_at_pbi.net wrote:
> > > I use fvwm2 (on solaris) and there is this program aterm
> > (basically
> > > transparent xterm).
> > >
> > > how do I configure fvwm to diplay aterm with title and
> > all buttons but no
> > > borders whatsoever?
> >
> > Style aterm HandleWidth 0
> ...
> > I've played a bit with aterm 0.3.6 and the transparency seems
> > to be badly
> > broken. If the window has a border and is moved the
> > background immediately
> > gets the border coulour. There are lots of other strange effects too.
> > I got the transparent borderless window working withouth a
> > problem though.
> > I recommend you put the style
> >
> > Style aterm HandleWidth 0
> >
> > in your config file so that the window never gets a border at all.
> > This should be reported to the aterm developers.
>
> how come the window behaviour changes depending on whether it has borders
> or not? I thought that the border and titles are supplied by window manager
> and that the application itself does not (generally) know anything about
> these things. it looks like the second part of that assumption is not right,
> right?
Wrong. All your assumptions are right :-) However, if the application
really wants to, it can find out about the frame and the border
(FvwmButtons is one of these naughty applications). To answer your
initial question: I don't know. Aterm seems to be quite buggy since
its behaviour seems to be random.
> I get similar behaviour - transparency works fine with borders, does not
> work without borders (either the whole window or parts where there is some
> text are no longer transparent).
>
> anybody knows a good implementation of transparent xterm-clone? (I intend
> to use it on solaris).
Try rxvt. It's implementation of transparency was copied by most
(probably all) terminal emulators that have it. I spent some time
discussing/debugging that feature with rxvt's authors and it should
work well now (but make sure you have the latest version!).
Bye
Dominik ^_^
--
Dominik Vogt, dominik.vogt_at_gmx.de
Reply-To: dominik.vogt_at_gmx.de
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Received on Sat Oct 16 1999 - 05:40:21 BST