Re: FVWM: follow-mode like feature in fvwm

From: Jose' Manuel Pereira <jmp_at_asterix.ist.utl.pt>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 21:58:08 +0100 (WEST)

"NZ" == Neil Zanella <nzanella_at_cs.mun.ca> writes:

  NZ> On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Dan Espen wrote:

>> In your original description of "follow-mode" you referred to the
>> [X]Emacs "follow-mode" package. Since the functionality required is
>> already in [X]Emacs, why aren't you using that?

  NZ> Why? Because I want to do the same thing with vi and the various vi
  NZ> clones and don't like the viper vi implementation that comes with Emacs
  NZ> that much.

Ok, that's your choice. Nobody HAS to use [X]Emacs. It's simply very
convenient to do so most of the time ;-)

  NZ> Plus, with Emacs (I never used Xemacs but Emacs which I have used can
  NZ> run in X mode or text mode) you can use follow-mode within a same FVWM
  NZ> window but you can't use follow mode amongst separate windows.

True. Probably nobody found it necessary, so nobody implemented it.
Personally, I never found a use to the existing follow-mode as well...

  NZ> I will make another suggestion to the Emacs developers pertaining to
  NZ> this feature then. Actually, here is where the problem comes in. In the
  NZ> latter picture, both "Emacs" windos would have to have the same toolbar
  NZ> color. If not, then scrolling down a highlighted window would move the
  NZ> cursor in a nonhighlighted window.

Looks very much like the typical problem any application (and user) would
have with your proposed "follow-mode".

(What's the "toolbar color"? XEmacs has toolbars, and are all the same color.
FSF Emacs does not have toolbars. Also vi...)

  NZ> Really, this should be a window manager feature.

Why? We are talking editors here. E.g, how could any window manager provide X
windows capabilities/awereness to standard vi?

  NZ> Even without follow-mode, having two windows display the same thing
  NZ> would be nice. Just like 2 windows in Emacs without follow mode. Why
  NZ> should everything appear in "one" rectangular box. Why not have things
  NZ> displayed in more than just "one" rectangular box?

You can have "two" or "more" rectangular boxes in an Emacs window. Emacs call
them, perhaps a little confusingly, "windows". And a buffer can be displayed
in several windows. I use it everyday in editing: e.g., two windows showing
two different parts of a file. Of course, you can also have two "frames"
(Emacs parlance for X windows) display the same file/buffer.

Perhaps I misunderstood the whole point, in that case my apologies.

And maybe (IMHO) this topic is a bit off the Fvwm list...

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Start with xedit...
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