Re: FVWM: Re: "active focus" applications (MetaCard)

From: Scott Raney <raney_at_metacard.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 17:00:34 -0600 (MDT)

>
>
> I have meta+<key> overrides in my .fvwmrc to do screen-shift stuff. I guess
> thats pretty common.
>
> However I am continually freaked by netscapes insistance on grabbing focus
> when I do a "save to disk" form of URL download. That, and the non-grabbing
> of focus into input fields on transitional popups. The screen shift META
> stuff doesn't work until the mouse is re-shifted off the download info window.
>
> This thing exposes how subjective focus is. Some windows which have little
> or no feedback (eg ones with only a cancel button) should not grab focus.

I disagree. The most efficient way to deal with these is to press the
return key to dismiss the dialog. If they don't get the focus, you
can't do this.

> Others, which you explicitly requested with intent of filling in fields should.
>
> Is this an app bug, a runtime wm config bug, or an unrealistic expectation?

I'd say the latter, if you're expecting some magical way to get around
the limitations of pointer focus when using applications where your
actions can cause dialog boxes to open.
  Regards,
    Scott

PS: I've just discovered another interesting problem with fvwm that is
just more evidence that most people using it are not using real GUI
applications very much: it doesn't even enforce modal dialog behavior!
Both mwm and olwm have properties that an application sets to indicate
that a window is a modal dialog (e.g., an error message) and the user
must respond to that dialog before continuing to work with the main
window. MetaCard sets both sets of properties, and fvwm is apparently
not honoring either of them...

> -George
>


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