Re: FVWM: Strange menu behaviour

From: stu <swl_at_ucs.co.za>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:23:47 +0200

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:04:02 +0200
Dominik Vogt <fvwm_at_fvwm.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:43:06PM +0200, stu wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 00:21:37 +0200
> > Olivier Chapuis <olivier.chapuis_at_free.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:04:40PM +0200, stu wrote:
> > > > Hi everyone
> > > >
> > > > I'm using fvwm 2.5.7. When I popup a menu using my mouse eg
> > > >
> > > > Mouse 3 R A Menu Debian
> > > >
> > > > the mouse pointer is positioned on the title of the menu.
> > > > However, when I popup a menu using a shortcut key eg
> > > >
> > > > Key Escape A C Menu Debian
> > > >
> > > > the mouse pointer is positioned on the first item *under* the
> > > > menu title. When I use the 'Popup' command the result is the
> > > > same. If I use a different shortcut key the result is the same.
> > >
> > > I think that the behavior you describe is intentional. There are
> > > surely good reasons for that (e.g., keyboard menu navigation is
> > > for expert which want fast navigation?).
> >
> > Hi Olivier, I find it difficult to agree with you. Here we have one
> > command - menu - called with the same options, executed in two
> > different ways, producing two distinctly different results. This
> > isn't always grounds for crying 'bug', but in this case 'menu' (or
> > 'popup') should (IMHO) produce the same result, in the way I have
> > used it above.
>
> > I can't see any logical or practical reason why the results should
> > differ. . .
>
> With the keyboard, I want to select the first menu entry with as
> few keystrokes as possible, i.e. <open menu>, <enter>. If the
> pointer were over the title, I'd have to press <down> to get the
> pointer over the first item.
>
> It would make very little sense to have the pointer over the first
> item if the menu was opened with the mouse because menus often
> have a double click action defined.

Aha, this is beginning to make sense. However, where does this leave me,
who routinely uses a shortcut to bring up a menu, and then uses the
mouse to select the menu option? I can't use the mouse all the time to
bring my menu, as it is bound to copy and paste in most of my windows.

Why this is such an issue for me is that my first menu item is a
sub-menu. When I use my shortcut to bring up the menu, the mouse-pointer
is positioned on the first menu item and my sub-menu then opens, which
is very annoying. I could put the sub-menu somewhere else, but this
would not be satisfying at all.

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