Re: FVWM: SECOND REQUEST: How to start in the same window

From: David <cupcake_at_sdf.lonestar.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:41:35 GMT

Hi Dominik Vogt,

Thank you very much for your reply to my question about
the desktop and the current viewport. I appreciate it.

I am running fvwm-2.4.3: apparently I shouldn't be having
the problem but I definitely still do. It is particularly
aggravating because when I hit the "Restart fvwm" menu entry,
it always comes up in a different window and if I didn't
know better, I would think I had lost all my windows when they
are simply in a different viewport.

I just tried adding:

AddToFunc ExitFunction I GotoPage 0 0

It doesn't help on the Restart fvwm menu entry. Also, I just killed
fvwm using the "X" in the upper right corner of teh cygwin/xfree86 border
and restarted it and it didn't help there either.

It seems to me that fvwm's selection of the current
viewport is random.

I notice a section

AddToFunc "StartFunction" I Module FvwmButtons
I Module FvwmPager 0 0

What do you think about trying to add it there?

I also tried putting this in startxwin.sh

        fvwm2 Restart --dont-preserve-state &

It had no affect as it made the fvwm2 command
unintelligible, and I added it as the last line in the .fvwm2rc
file also without any change in behavior.

*Restart --dont-preserve-state

Thanks for your help with the terminology. I think I had the
term desktop but wasn't confident you used Current Viewport
consistently.

THE REAL PROBLEM - isn't there always one under the presenting
problem - is that while in telnet probably after hitting a combination
of keystrokes I can't reconstruct THE WINDOW MANAGER WILL CONVERT
ALL MY KEYBOARD ENTRY TO UPPER CASE. This means that if I am
editing a file in vi, I can't quit the file because vi won't
accept :WQ.

The cure for this is to click on "Restart Fvwm" in the desktop
menu and then it will go back to lower case - which is why I
think this is a bug in fvwm.

The presenting problem is my concern that if the help desk gets
a call for all caps, and then they tell the user to restart the
fvwm, that the user will go nuts because they will think they
have lost all their work when in fact only the current
viewport will have changed.

I really appreciate your time and effort: fvwm is a good
product and has a lot of excellent virtues. I think if
these couple of items could be cured, it might gain a much
wider audience.

Also, there is one other point. I have ported some sun xwindows
motif programs to XFree86 and lesstif. I am now running on a
pc with its display set to 1162 x 864 rather than the default
640x480.

This way every pc program comes up slightly smaller but
unfortunately all the motif programs come up full size.

I think it would be wonderful if I could tell fvwm to
scale all the motif or lesstif pixels to a different size or if fvwm
could just read this off the current pcwindows setting.

David




Just to point out the terminology:

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The whole work area is called a "Desktop", and is divided into
"Pages" (3x3 in your case). The visible portion of the desktop is
called "Current Viewport". This usually - but not necessarily -
matches one of the pages.

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Received on Wed Nov 14 2001 - 09:41:35 GMT

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