Re: FVWM: FVWM, CDE, Solaris, and desktop hangs

From: Michael Han <mikehan_at_mikehan.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:22:59 -0800

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:53:28PM -0500, Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:
> Background: We've got a bunch of desktops running Solaris 2.6 and fvwm
> 2.0.45. Our users login with openwindows, and fvwm is started from user's
> .xinitrc files. These desktops frequently hang, with dtlogin dying and
> leaving an XSun process in bad shape. Restarting dtlogin without
> killing the XSun will freeze the desktop to require a cold reboot.

That's bad. I wonder what's causing your sessions to hang like that.

> I'm preparing to upgrade to fvwm 2.2.4 to see if this helps.
> I'm puzzling over the section 2.2 of the dtwm FAQ that says:
>
> Finally you have to quit with
> /usr/dt/bin/dtaction ExitSession (or whatever your path is for dtaction)
>
> I'm wondering:
> a) does this even *apply* if I'm starting with openwindows instead of dtwm?

Yes, I believe it does on 2.6. You're still using the dtlogin session
management stuff. You're not running dtwm *or* OpenWindows if you're
running fvwm. OpenWindows and CDE are desktop environments. olwm and
dtwm are the respective window managers for those environments.

> b) if it applies, what's the exact syntax to make it work? I'm trying
> variations
> of this in my .fvwm2rc without success:
>
> AddToMenu FvwmCommands "Fvwm Commands" Title
> + "Exit Fvwm" /usr/dt/bin/dtaction
> ExitSession

You left out the "Exec". You're probably seeing error messages to the
effect of "<<FVWM>>: Cannot locate module /usr/dt/bin/dtaction" or
something in the error messages from fvwm. It should be "Exec
/usr/dt/bin/dtaction ExitSession" or perhaps "Exec exec
/usr/dt/bin/dtaction ExitSession".
 
> c) is there anything else we should be doing?

Probably, but nothing I can think of is relevant on this list ;>

> d) Is there any advantage to starting from dtwm instead of openwindows?

? I'm not sure I understand. You mean choosing the OpenWindows login
v. the CDE login? If you login to CDE you might have to customize FVWM
as the session's window manager differently. See FAQ entry 2.2.
 
> Has anyone had this problem and did you find a fix?
> Also, is there a good "howto" or intro out there? I'm a bit of an X/desktop
> newbie - I've been a unix sysadmin for quite a while but most of my Solaris
> admin experience is on headless servers.

Um, O'Reilly's got some decent stuff, like Vol 3 of their X Windows
series, though a large percentage of the pages are just reproductions
of X11R5 man pages. Kenton Lee's got probably the best collection of
X-related info anywhere:

http://www.rahul.net/kenton/xsites.html
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