Re: FVWM: title-bar patch

From: Albrecht Kadlec <albrecht_at_auto.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 96 16:07:07 +0200

>>>>> William E Roadcap writes:

W> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Charles Hines wrote:
> I'm going to check out Rasterman's patches, just for grins, but I
> don't think I'll include that just yet. But perhaps if his additions
> are simple, maybe I will add them as a compile time option as well.
> Who knows?

W> I took a long long look at Rasterman's page. Although I find his ideas to
W> be REALLY cool, 8 hours of looking at that desktop could give one a very
W> serious migraine headache.

I probably wouldn't use the rxvt-background for long, considering HUGE
pixmaps (spell: slow redraw?) & near unreadable text.
I do like the marble decorations, though. (I could live without, but ..)



W> I'm not saying that some of these feature shouldn't be added. If these
W> are fairly small nonintrusive patches they should included. They could
W> make for some VERY attractive desktops when used properly.
I guess andrew's workin on it, and I vote for inclusion of his patches.

W> What I would _r e a l l y_ like to see:

W> - Optional mini-pixmaps on the WindowList, and title bar
W> or on the N/W title bar button. This mini-icon would
W> "follow" the application via a common FVWM style. This has
W> already been done well by the Fvwm95 team via
W> Style "whatever" Titleicon mini-icon.xpm
W> Perhaps Hector P. could share a patch with us.
somewhat cryptic, but sth like that should be considered.
(maybe I'll lokk at it, since I'm into windowlist by now)
any other windowlist ideas?

W> - If the titlebar pixmap patch is not adopted, then at the
W> least we should be able to set the titlebar (just the title
W> button itself) to a different color that the rest of the
W> window frame.
I vote vor adoption. It's not that big, is it?
We could gain more by code-cleanups & better orthogonality of features.
(i.e: the windowlist is a menu as well, so solve the mini-icon stuff for
menus in general, but in a way windowlist can use it, and the windowlist
mini-icons are free. I think _that_ patch would be included immediately.)

W> - The ability to NOT display geometry on the WindowList.
W> Actually, the whole WindowList syntax needs to be made less
W> cryptic. Again, Fvwm95 has improved this and we could benefit
W> from their work. Here is an excerpt from the Fvwm95 man page
W> regarding WindowList options.

has been done. (I mailed a patch to chuck, actually it contained some more
changes. You'll probably see them in 2.1.0)

I'd suggest more people "put their money where their mouth is" (from
rec.ww) and not only discuss changes, but send chuck diffs.

W> This is just my two cents. Although I have tinkered with and contributed
W> code to Fvwm95, I'm no Win95 fan. Nor am I really fond of the Win95
W> (Where in hell did the frames go?!?) look. I'm sure many of you share this
W> sentiment. However, that doesn't mean that we can't benefit from some of
W> the useful and attractive ideas of others. Not everything in the Win95
W> interface is bogus. Even the taskbar itself is a good idea, especially
W> when in autohide mode. It's just a horizontal FvwmWinList with a few
W> amenities, right? If you think about it, we did it first. So, let's sue
W> MS. ;-) Just kidding....

albrecht
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Received on Thu Sep 19 1996 - 09:17:30 BST

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